Does anyone have any tips for building a prompt to name something? I’ve tried many times and the results are always juvenile, but I think I may be the problem. What am I doing wrong? --- This post was migrated from connect.com and was originally published at an earlier date.
Hi Jenny, Have you tried asking the AI itself? (I tried ChatGPT and here is what it returned). Off course I gave ChatSpot a try too with : “do you have any tips for building a prompt for ChatSpot to name something?” Unfortunately ChatSpot doesn’t have a sharing link like ChatGPT does but give it a try if you haven’t done it already. Happy prompting. --- This post was migrated from connect.com and was originally published at an earlier date.
Robert Crisp Roman Kozak Claire Bouvier what do you think? would love to hear your thoughts! --- This post was migrated from connect.com and was originally published at an earlier date.
All LLMs are not good with naming currently. Names are rather average. I didn’t hear anything on how to improve it. --- This post was migrated from connect.com and was originally published at an earlier date.
Jesse Bouman LOVE the call out to ask it! The link you shared went to a 404 but that prompt alone helped! Thank you! --- This post was migrated from connect.com and was originally published at an earlier date.
Hi Jenny Sowyrda That’s odd (the 404). I have regenerated it, give this link a shot. --- This post was migrated from connect.com and was originally published at an earlier date.
Roman Kozak glad to hear I’m not alone in struggling here. I wonder why this is such a blind spot for AI? --- This post was migrated from connect.com and was originally published at an earlier date.
Jenny Sowyrda have you tried prompt generators? I couldn’t share experience bc I have not played with them at all but I found a free one you could give a try, if you get blown away, please share, if not Good luck in your quest.
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Hey Jenny Sowyrda . Could you give me an example of what you’ve tried to name recently? Along with the prompt you used? Getting your prompt right can be hard, and often with LLM’s, the more you input, quite often you can go further from what you were looking for originally. Getting the prompt right at the beginning is quite important from my experience. --- This post was migrated from connect.com and was originally published at an earlier date.
Robert Crisp An example would be a community for new marketers to discuss how to get their career started. My starting prompt is usually something like “Please provide a list of 10 community names for an online community for junior marketers looking to start their career. The community will focus on provide career advice and educational growth.” --- This post was migrated from connect.com and was originally published at an earlier date.
Jenny Sowyrda Your prompt could do with more information on what you’re looking for. This is quite vague and will result in a lot of random suggestions. Something I like to do when makeing a prompt like this - particuarly if I haven’t thought about what style or tone I want for the name, or the emotion I want to evoke etc - is to ask ChatGPT (my personal fave LLM), please ask me appropriate questions that can help you better perform your task. Then, Chat should ask you some thought provoking questions that will ultimately give you better results. My boss, the CEO of Growth Tribe is obsessed with AI. I highly recommend following him on LinkedIn as he’s always giving great tips on how to use it, and he’s been teaching AI for years. https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidarnoux/ --- This post was migrated from connect.com and was originally published at an earlier date.
Thank you Robert Crisp ! Great suggestions to get more specific and to ask for follow up questions! And I’ll definitely check your boss’s LI out! We need his (and your) knowledge on Connect, too!
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I’ve done quite a bit of work on this and would be happy to show you. It’s less of “here is one easy prompt and you’re golden” and more of a process to work with ChatGPT to ultimately end with a strong list of ideas. Moral of the story, I worked with ChatGPT to generate a scoring system based on factors I wanted to prioritize and some that ChatGPT suggested. Then once the scoring system was created, I asked it only to generate name ideas that would score in the top tier. Here is the latest… https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xzf8MOJ_RKHlTRegCjLP6aeni4xfnCMwPcikpkWcFOc/edit?usp=sharing --- This post was migrated from connect.com and was originally published at an earlier date.
Spon on Hansen Hunt! That is a great tactic to steer LLM in a desired direction. I saw a similar approach in making LLM to solve math exercises. It worked well. Thank you for sharing --- This post was migrated from connect.com and was originally published at an earlier date.
Jeez dude. This prompt is amazing. Thank you! --- This post was migrated from connect.com and was originally published at an earlier date.
I’d respond but I need to know something crucial first. Are we talking about GPT3.5 or GPT4, or any LLM? If we’re talking GPT3.5 I can’t help you. I think the first place to start is to say that ‘Garbage in - Garbage out’ meaning that if you ask it very simply, you’re going to get very simple responses. Then you end up frustrated thinking the model isn’t complex enough to over-engineer your simplified request. While I’m sure that eventually we will get to that point, for the time being, there’s a little more work involved to get what we want for now :P! That said, if we’re working with GPT4 then we can start working with some logic in the prompt before we actually get to work on naming suggestions. How? Well, lets work with the model and find out what we don’t know in order to get what we want from it. Prompt: Good morning GPT! I’d like your help with creating a prompt for language models which can help me generate great name ideas that I can pick from. The goal is to create a unique, innovative, and ‘catchy’ name that people would be attracted to based on the purpose of the community. The community is going to be a community for new marketers to discuss how to get their career started When creating prompts for a large language model, it’s an understood principle that ‘context is king,’ meaning that the prompt having more context to the problem for the model to solve, increases the quality of the output from the model. Are there a few additional pieces of information I can give you in order to help you accomplish this goal, or are you good to go? Response: Good morning! I’m glad to assist you with this creative endeavor. To generate a prompt that will help create unique, innovative, and catchy names for your new marketers’ community, it’s indeed crucial to provide as much relevant context as possible. Here are some additional pieces of information that would be beneficial to refine the prompt and tailor it to your specific needs: - Target Audience Demographics: Understanding who the community is for (beyond just “new marketers”) can help in crafting a name that resonates. Are we targeting a specific age group, geographical location, or perhaps marketers interested in certain industries (e.g., digital, retail, B2B)? - Tone and Personality: What kind of tone do you want the community name to convey? Should it be professional, playful, innovative, supportive, or perhaps a mix of these qualities? - Key Themes or Values: Are there particular themes or values that are central to your community? For example, collaboration, innovation, growth, learning, etc. This can help in aligning the name with the community’s ethos. - Naming Preferences or Restrictions: Do you have any preferences regarding the name’s structure (e.g., should it be a single word, a compound word, or a phrase)? Are there any words or themes you want to avoid? - Examples of Names You Like: Sharing a few names of communities or brands that you admire can offer insight into your style preferences and what you consider “catchy.” ----------------------------------- OK so now we can see that the model understands what we’re trying to do and is on board with how it works, as well as understanding that it needs to garner as much context towards the goal as possible to do a good job so now it can ask us for the information to create a better result! At the end of the day, when you prompt for something like “Please provide a list of 10 community names for an online community for junior marketers looking to start their career. The community will focus on provide career advice and educational growth.” Questions left out start with what’s the age group? What is the demo? Start career growth from HS? College? Different degree program? Educational growth but didn’t specify what type of educational growth, so generic? Specific? Specialized? What type of community, social media, message board, forum? As Hansen Hunt said - it’s much more of a working conversation and working relationship than it is just ‘spray and pray.’ (spray out some info, pray for the right result) --- This post was migrated from connect.com and was originally published at an earlier date.
These are great points, thank you @Nico and @Hansen! What I’m learning is I’m giving AI too much credit and not enough information. These are really helpful tips! --- This post was migrated from connect.com and was originally published at an earlier date.