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Stop automatic contact creation from email sending

Hi guys

 

I'm using the Gmail integration and love all the features EXCEPT the one that automatically creates a new contact within HubSpot CRM everytime I send an email to anyone not yet in the CRM from my Gmail account.

 

Is there a way to switch off just this one feature without losing any of the other integrations. All I have tried so far is unticking the 'Log In CRM' check box in the email compser window.

 

Any other ideas?

 

Thanks in advance!

HubSpot Updates
Re: Stop contacts being added automatically after sending Gmail email - changed to: Delivered
January 26, 2021 10:27 AM

Hello,

 

Thank you everyone for your help and feedback during the product development process.

 

This functionality is now live to all Chrome Extension users and we have documentation on this here: 
https://knowledge.hubspot.com/email-tracking/track-and-log-emails-with-the-hubspot-sales-chrome-exte...

https://knowledge.hubspot.com/email-tracking/customize-your-hubspot-sales-chrome-extension-default-c...

 

Let m know if there are any other ongoing questions and feel free to reach me at flora@hubspot.com

 

Best,

Flora

September 28, 2020 12:27 PM

Hello Berwyn,

 

Thanks for reaching out- my email is flora@hubspot.com, in your first message it was misspelled.

Reachout with your HubID and I will add you to the beta. This beta has been implemented within the past year so the fucntionality will have changed from then. The setting for "New Contacts" can be found in the settings after the beta is ungated- orange sprocket circle in the top bar of Gmail. Looking forward to your email and let me know how else I can help.

 

Best,

Flora

August 21, 2020 08:56 AM

Hello Omari,

 

For shared Team Inboxes, we have filters (https://knowledge.hubspot.com/conversations/set-up-email-filters-in-your-conversations-inbox) to help catch these emails and filtered emails will not create new contacts. Let me know if this helps and I have passed this feedback to the team that works on Conversations.

 

Best,

Flora

Re: Stop contacts being added automatically after sending Gmail email - changed to: In Beta
August 18, 2020 11:19 AM

Hello everyone,

 

My name is Flora Wang and I am the Product Manager for the Chrome Extension at HubSpot. 

 

I wanted to clarfiy a couple of different topics discussed on the thread so far.

 

1) Incoming emails are not automatically logged into HubSpot unless the inbox is connected to a shared inbox. (More info here https://knowledge.hubspot.com/conversations/create-a-conversations-inbox#connect-a-team-email-channel in the "Connect a team email channel" section.)

2) We want to help users log the right information into the CRM and the intention is not to drive up the cost of HubSpot- I understand if we have not executed this well in the past and we are trying to improve upon this. 

3) We have implemented a setting to allow you to refine which objects should be associated when you are logging an email. This is in beta and please email me at flora@hubspot.com if you would like to be included in the beta! 

 

When "New Contacts" is de-selected, new contacts will not be created in the CRM when you are responding to emails with new contacts in the thread. You can still select other associations with this new feature, the setting is for a default.

 

Selecting default association and contact creationSelecting default association and contact creation

Please let me know if this helps clarify and I am always happy to chat and get feedback! Send me an email at flora@hubspot.com and let's set up some time.


Best,

Flora

96 Replies
Communitylearn
Member

I turned off Log and Track in my inbox as my HR related info kept turning up in Hubspot and Hubspot have not got an acceptable solution for this.

 

We have literally had emails about people being made redundant end up in Hubspot for other employees to see.  I can't possibly have log and track on!

Even if you delete a contact from Hubspot when you realise there is a compromising email that has been recorded, and turn off log and track in gmail, if someone later opens the email you sent when you had log and track on, it will re-appear in Hubspot with the contact re-created!

 

So we have emails with titles abou redundancies, payrises etc pop up.

 

As a partial solution

If you go to Settings > Integrations > Email integrations > Log and track you can put in domains which should never be tracked.

 

I have in there my company's domain with an asterix eg *.domain.com so that emails between employees aren't tracked (yes really Hubspot, sales employees email each other about confidential things like Pay and personal issues!).  Why isn't this set as on by default so that interactions between employees aren't tracked?

 

I also have the payroll company, lawyers etc in don't track and log.  But the problem is you don't know who is going to email you or who you are going to email and you won't have disabled them here.  The email will end up in Hubspot.

 

So even though I turned off log and track and said don't log and track the payroll company, the payroll company changed their email domain without me noticing, and so their emails started turning up in Hubspot again.   And I have not had log and track on for a year!   

 

It is completely unacceptable from a GDPR point of view, let alone employee confidential information about illness etc.

Email titles that can be seen by other employees in the Activity Feed are enough for a massive breach of confidential information.

 

 

SjoerdK
Member

Wow, we are testing various platforms to use as our CRM tool. 

During testing, hubspot started to create contacts from incoming newsletter messages. 

From the thread I understand there is no way to avoid this unless we cut tracking of emails. 

 

This discussion raises a few red flags for my business. 

1. GDPR concerns are not taken serious by Hubspot

2. Hubspot takes 2 years to resolve basic functionality requests like this one

3. Hubspot connects functionalities that seemingly have nothing to do with one another and forces you to either opt in or out of a group of connected functionalities. 

 

Very happy to see this now, before we need to make our final decision. 

Let's see how Zoho and Pipedrive score in this regard. 

drewshape
Member

We've found the same issue and it shouldn't be too difficult to fix, really - so it's disappointing to see nothing has been done in 2 years.

 

I think users should have the option and decide wheather or not to create a new contact in the CRM.

 

 

 

 

mendelcohen
Member

Wow, you guys really just don't understand. It's so simple!!!

 

Read the following SLOWLY....We do not want emails being created into contacts. Meaning, when we get an email, it automatically creates a contact in the contact section. I don't know how to explain it in simpler terms. How do you guys not understand? 


We all want this fixed! Everyone!

 

All solutions you stated do not provide a fix to this problem. I'm sure the worst developer out there can fix this in a heartbeat. You guys need to step up your game on this please.

 

I even receive marketing emails that become contacts. It's outragous! 

 

 

 

Trealoar
Member

I agree!

There may be more to it, if on a paid subscription - the more contacts you have the higher the monthly bill..... makes sense to keep adding contacts right?

deanburell
Member

Easy fix, just give me the option.  If the contact does not exist and logging and/or tracking is turned on, prompt me whether I want to add them as a contact, if I say yes, add them as a contact and continue logging and tracking... if I say no. dont do anything and move on.

 

If you want to get fancy, ask me if I want to block that email address from being added in the future, and then you already know the answer to the above question.

Muser
Member

I now understand why Hubspot doesn't add this feature: money! Hubspot charges for quantities of contacts in our database for their Marketing product, and so by automatically adding contacts to our CRMs, Hubspot is driving up our contact count so they can sell us more blocks of contacts. If they enable us to disable this feature, we'll have fewer contacts and they'll make less money.  So, if anyone is wondering why such a simple feature that's highly demanded by customers hasn't been implemented, I think we have our answer. 

DevonC
Participant

@Muser I came here to say this. It's clear that enabling this simple feature would significantly reduce the number of contacts created and thus have a direct impact on Hubspot's revenue. It's easy to surmise that this is why they haven't done it.

 

Anyone from Hubspot care to reply?

MrsAugie
Member

I am BRAND new to HubSpot and was just trying to figure out how to connect my Outlook. We have only had our initial onboarding call. YIKES - reading these messages I don't want to connect my Outlook! Like someone mentioned above, as a small business, I use my business email for pretty much everything in my life. I actually DO want to have vendors and personal contacts in HubSpot but I definitely want to be able to to tell  HubSpot whether or not to make a new contact. And I want to be able to indicate when making that a new contact, who (user permissions) is able to view that contact. It does seem like a pretty simple feature for a platform as robust as HubSpot. 

NWilkinson
Member

Yep I'm only a few weeks into Hubspot but facing this and I'm a very small business. My suppliers or contacts I keep removing just pop up the next day after another email....sigh.

 

Agree with other comments about an "ignore" or "never add" feature. A must have.

 

The very fact that I'm here on this thread means I had to search for how to stop HS from doing this as it was getting very frustrating after only several contacts, I don't want to imagine having to do this over hundreds or thousands of contacts. 

Millerd
Member

100% AGREE !!! When can we expect this to be fixed

tonydoylei2v
Member

And to make matters worse it keeps adding internal emails to staff as contacts. This is in danger of becoming a deal breaker for us. It smacks of an insidious attempt to drive revenue for hubspot's contact based pricing model.

OmairH
Contributor

I receive over 200 emails every day, 100+ are from companies marketing themselves (SPAM), 40 from services we use and 60 from customers. Every day by evening, our account is a mess from SPAM senders and service notification email addresses added as contact.

 

Simply providing a check button to add all email as contacts would work wonders with HS customers.

Millerd
Member

Ok so apparently there is a fix for this, if you login via chrome/gmail (may be similar for Outlook plugins) you will now see an option under settings that allows you to remove default associations per the screenshot below. Basically this appears to only require you to remove the "new company" association.

 

I have seen a drop off in new contacts but would appreciate the community input here.

 

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OmairH
Contributor

Hi Millerd,

 

Apologies as I must've posted the comment in the wrong window. My question was for all incoming emails and not out-going emails.

Millerd
Member

I am outstanding a response from HS and this thread is intended for INBOUND messages, so you are in the right place. I await feedback from them still on this.

OmairH
Contributor

Hi Millerd, thank you.

 

The method you mentioned is for out-going emails. I want HS to stop creating new contacts for all incoming emails.

 

With over 100+ spam emails, its driving me nuts to delete contacts every few hours in order to keep the CRM clean.

Millerd
Member

Hi Omair, can you confirm this so I can go back to them

 

as I said I have been chasing this but have not had a response yet

OmairH
Contributor

Millerd, I can confirm what you mentioned works for out-going emails but not INBOUND emails.

berwynhoyt
Participant

Hubspot has not addressed this for years and years. As a result we have never been able to use their gmail plugin.

 

It's probably only about 1 to 5 lines of code for them to fix it. Pseudo-code would look like this:

  • if dbase.lookup(email_address) is not None:
  •      add_email_to_crm_log(email_address, email_content)

I'm really baffled as to why they won't fix it.