HubSpot Ideas

NicoleSengers

Set Association Labels On Records via a Workflow

I would love to be able to add in the new association labels using a workflow - rather than needing to do this manually.

this would enable businesses who have contact A who makes a booking and Contacts B, C, D etc who attend a course or an event flagged as attendees. so a business knows which are valuable contacts.

 

It would also be helpful to be able to use a workflow to send different communications to clients based on their association tag.

Actualizaciones de HubSpot
October 17, 2024 02:36 PM

Hi folks! 

 

If you submitted a request to join the Association Actions beta, your request has been approved (as of yesterday)! We've spent the last few months scaling our systems to ensure they can keep up with all the usage and as a result had to pause on beta additions for a bit. We'll continue to add portals who request beta access and move towards rolling this functionality out to all customers (who have at least one Pro+ hub) towards the end of the year.

 

Best,

 

Maggie

August 16, 2024 07:12 AM

Hi Everyone,

 

I want to provide an update on a few things:

  1. Thank you for all of the feature requests. We're reviewing them and will be determining what we can support later this year. I'm seeing trends in the following requests: triggering workflows based on the application of an association label, applying an association label as part of the create & associate flow and copying associations from one record to another. Please keep the feedback coming-it's helpful for us to ensure we're prioritizing the right thing.
  2. We have currently paused on adding new customers to the beta. There has been a ton of enthusiasm for these features and we're making updates to our systems to ensure that everything will continue to scale as efficiently as possible. We will resume adding additional customers within the next few weeks. No further action needed if you've already submitted a request.

Have a great weekend!

 

-Maggie

 

 

June 21, 2024 06:57 AM

@LukasK we've heard this feedback a few times and I unfortunately don't have a great answer for you at this point. It sounds like you want to create a new record, associate it to the enrolled record and then label that new association. That 100% makes sense and we'll continue looking into how to make this work but I unfortunately don't have a great solution right this minute (but everyone else please chime in if you have an inventive idea).

June 21, 2024 06:54 AM

Hi @ABeney! I would play around with the enrollment criteria. You could create a list of contacts who were incorrectly tagged and then only run the workflow on that list of contacts. That should make it so that the label is only removed from the right contacts. We'll keep listening on if we need to add further refinements for the label actions. Thanks!

Estado actualizado a: In Beta
June 18, 2024 08:53 AM

Hi All!

I'm excited to announce that we have entered a public beta for the following actions:

You can opt in by going to your Product Updates section of HubSpot and looking for "New Workflow Actions for Associations." Check out this Knowledge Base article if you want to learn more. As you test out the actions, please keep the feedback coming! We'll likely expand the functionality later in the year.

 

Best,

 

Maggie

June 04, 2024 11:31 AM

Hi @MGrowth2

There's currently a beta open where you can remove and update association labels. We are planning to add in the ability to apply new labels within the next few weeks. You can request access directly in HubSpot by clicking on "product updates" and searching for the private beta referenced in the screenshot below. I will review it within a few days.

 

Best,

 

Maggie

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Estado actualizado a: In Beta
May 16, 2024 07:20 AM

Hello! 

I'm excited to announce that we've rolled out two new association based actions into a beta. In the first phase you will be able to remove or update existing labels (demo video) . Adding labels is coming next! Please look for the beta below in the product updates section of your HubSpot portal.   

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May 07, 2024 06:39 AM

Hi All!

 

I've seen a lot of beta requests come through over the last few days. I promise to post here as soon as we're ready at which point you'll be able to request access via the product updates section of HubSpot. As a note, the first, early adopter phase of the beta will specifically include the ability to remove or update association labels (we'll be adding the ability to apply association labels and create new associations in a second phase). More to come soon.

 

Best,

 

Maggie

April 29, 2024 01:11 PM

Hi All!

There was a question about the notification no longer showing up about the new workflow actions. I promise we haven't given up! I just tweaked the name of the release and that may have hidden it from product updates. All of which is to say we're on track for a private beta in May and I promise to alert you once that beta is ready for you to opt into.

Thanks for all the enthusiasm!

-Maggie from HubSpot's product team

Estado actualizado a: In Planning
March 11, 2024 06:31 AM

Hi all! 

I know that everyone on this thread is eagerly awaiting a beta. We're actively working on this functionality and if you want more information of what will likely be included in our first release, I'd recommend checking out the "In Development" notification that went out last week. You can find this by navigating to Product Updates in your HubSpot portal and looking for "New Workflow Actions to Automate Association Processes."

 

We'll provide another update when we get ready to open up a broad beta.

-Maggie (HubSpot product manager)

Estado actualizado a: In Planning
January 25, 2024 06:51 AM

Hello!

I'm Maggie from HubSpot's product team. I'm excited to announce that we're actively working on the ability to manage association labels via workflow. We're hoping to have something in beta for you all to test out within the next few months. 

 

I also want to share this Knowledge Base article which outlines the ways that you can already use association labels in workflows (for things like enrollment) as it seems like there are a few questions in that space.

 

Thank you for all of your thoughtful feedback and examples! It helps us make sure that we're building the right thing 😊.

August 30, 2023 01:07 PM

Hi everyone, I don't have much in the ways of an update on this feature as we are still working through some major blockers. There is a limitation in how we find records to be associated, making it difficult to complete our set of features. We are still working hard on this problem and will have more updates along the way.

 

@04262 that feature is now live to all so it's no longer in the Beta page.

July 20, 2023 01:12 PM

@RyGuy the changes we're working through are towards the next set of features I'm referencing, for example, the Set Association Label action. Therefore there wouldn't be much if anything changed to the existing beta functionality. Definitely feel free to message me with details if you'd like.

 

@jaybaum I just met with our Associations team and discussed that hard limit. No hard decisions were made but we would like to fix that as well and could see traction in the coming months. I would recommend opening an idea on our forum so we can track progress, otherwise we'll hopefully have good news down the line

July 20, 2023 10:12 AM

@Steiger and others,

 

As it so happens, today was going to be the day I gave an update as we've made some major breakthroughs recently that we wanted to share with everyone.

 

The new Data Panel beta feature is currently going through the final weeks of "beta testing" and will soon be available to all customers. We had a rather tricky setback this past month that took our entire team time to sort out but as of this week we've sorted out all the kinks and are back to working on the followup functionality needed for a "Set Association Label" action. While I can't give an estimate (for fear of hitting another setback and dissapointing people), I can say we have a much more clear line of sight to our goal and have many engineers actively working on the solution.

 

The good news is that this next milestone will include more than just the Association Label action. We are going to have the ability to support more field types and provide finer granularity on the types of records/data that can be pulled into a Workflow.

June 20, 2023 06:39 AM

@RyGuy Thanks for pointing people in the right direction.

 

As for lack of functionality, I'm 100% with you, it leaves us wanting more as well. We're working on scaling issues at the moment to bring what we think is the full power of the feature: pull one (or more) values from any object, event, integrator object, without restrictions (within reason in terms of scale). If you have feedback or recommendations, please let us know.

May 26, 2023 06:32 AM

Sorry about the public beta link not working anymore, everyone. It looks like we had an issue with the way those betas work that prevented us from exposing the new feature in this manner.

 

For now, please use this form to gain access: https://forms.gle/d44dN9GqW1Zyqer36

Estado actualizado a: In Planning
May 04, 2023 06:49 AM

Hi everyone,

 

Here's a short update from the team. Now that the [Public Beta] Data Panel with associated record data in workflows is open to the public, we've begun working on the "Set Association Labels" action that everyone in this thread has been patiently waiting for. After we complete our exploratory phase for the project, the team will be able to give a rough estimate on when we'd expect to have this ready for our beta testers. Stay tuned for more information.

March 23, 2023 06:37 AM

@jaybaum sorry, that type of work is not related to the Workflows tool so we're not able to work on that directly. However, I will pass along that piece of feedback to the relevant team and see what can be done about that.

March 21, 2023 05:45 AM

@NPW Yes, we're planning on adding support for almost every field. The Internal Email Notification is currently being worked on and should be ready in a few weeks.

 

Sorry to dissapoint about the pace of the setting of association labels, we'll continue to work hard on that and give an update once it's ready.

March 20, 2023 06:31 AM

Hi everyone,

 

As we work hard on the Data panel with associated data private beta, I wanted to give another update as there has been some confusion surrounding our current work. While we have not started on the work to automatically apply association labels using the Workflows tool, we are prepping for it. The beta I linked to in my last message refers to a feature that is NOT to apply association labels using our tool. Instead, it allows the use of associated data in fields across the app, much like the "personalization tokens" that can be inserted into many text fields. Read below for more information:

 

March 01, 2023 07:16 AM

Great news everyone, please follow along in this other thread to join the private beta of the Data panel feature:

https://community.hubspot.com/t5/HubSpot-Ideas/Workflow-actions-that-can-update-properties-across-different/idc-p/713251

February 22, 2023 07:33 AM

Hi everyone,

 

A quick update based off our last update from January. We had issues come up that delayed us by a few weeks but should now be back on track. To remind everyone, the beta we're working on is a preliminary feature that will allow users to use a lot more HubSpot/external data across many Workflow fields. This is going to be one of our larger project releases in a while and once the (hopefully short) beta period on that is done, we'll then be able to start on the beta for the Associations work everyone in this thread is interested in.

 

So to reiterate, the beta that's going to go live soon is not directly for Associations work, but is indirectly related and required for us to start that work.

 

Making promises on when it'll be ready can only end poorly so instead we can give an update on the work and what our current blockers are:

 

- The initial beta to allow users to use data from many different sources went through the first round of testing and while we found a few major bugs, we've since patched most of them. Once we do a second round of testing, we'll start the private beta (and will invite anyone in this thread to join)

- The work needed for what everyone in this thread is looking for, a way to automate association/association labels, requires the previous feature to go live. Once that's live and stable, the new data sources availability would make it possible for our teams to build out a feature that could use this data for the purposes of manipulating associations

 

Once the first bullet point is done (and only then) we'll be able to move on the Association work.

 

As always, we'll try to update this thread and any related threads as we make progress!

January 19, 2023 06:12 AM

January update:

 

Hi everyone,

 

The team has been hard at work for the past few weeks as we finish up work on the beta for our Data access feature (needed for us to start work on the Associations action within Workflows). Know that we're monitoring this thread on a weekly basis (or even daily) so as soon as that beta is ready to open, I'll post a link for those that want to join. We've had positive feedback from our preliminary alpha testing so we expect the beta to go by quickly, meaning even if you don't join this beta you'll have access to the new Data feature shortly after. 

 

Depending on the amount of feedback we get during this phase we'll start to form (finally) a timeline for the Association feature everyone in this thread has been asking for.

 

Thanks for all the support and stay tuned.

December 14, 2022 06:00 AM

Hi everyone,

 

I wanted to give an end of year update as we've been getting lots of requests for this feature. As we stand, our original estimate is still on track. The related features we needed to finish before starting on this associations request are due to be completed mid January. Once that goes into Beta, we'll work in parallel to both incorporate public feedback, as well build out functionality related to associations within Workflows. 

 

We'll likely post a link to the January Beta in this thread so unless we have delays, expect great news early 2023

September 26, 2022 06:15 AM

Hi @emmaboyd we're still actively working on the tangential projects that will make this one possible. We don't have a good timeline but expect to have those other projects done by the end of the year, after which we would be entirely ready to tackle this project.

August 05, 2022 05:40 AM

We (the team that builds the Workflows editor tool) have a need for this feature as well so we are building all the necessary "building block" foundational features we need to make the association action a reality. We will update this thread once we get a timeline as we still have discovery work to do before we can commit to building it. The exciting news is that the CRM's association capabilities are also growing, making this action even more valuable to build.

Estado actualizado a: Being Reviewed
August 02, 2022 12:43 PM

351 Comentarios
KarlS
Miembro

@MaggieBExcited that this is now in Beta! I tested adding associations between the contact object and a custom object called members. I set the association to match based on email, but it fails to match when the additional email of the contact record matches the member object's email. We have a unique identifier for members that is a number since many share an email address. I set it up so we can associate multiple members with one contact record. This Beta works fine to remove associations between contacts and members. The previous "create record" workflow function works fine to create a contact if the email from the custom object member record doesn't match any existing contacts. The problem is that when the member record matches an additional email it will not create a new contact record because it shares an email with an existing contact record, and the workflow association with this Beta will fail because it can't match the emails.

MVickers
Miembro

Is there going to be functionality to associatte tasks from deals to contacts using the associataion label? 

 

we use deal predemonitley and only associatte contacts, but dont neccesarily want every task on every contact associated to the deal. 

DBusch
Colaborador

Would be cool to copy association label at record creation.
My use case : when the sales team close won a "group" deal with several companies associated, the HQ is set as primary.
I create a Renewal deal with a workflow when the deal is won but currently, we loose the association labels, I would like to copy the association labels from the deal that triggered the workflow on that newly created deal

elake
Miembro

@MaggieB - thanks for your work on this. How do we copy an association label from one deal to another? Here is the use case I am trying to accomplish - the sales team are associating a Contact as the 'Implementation Lead' (as a Contact to Deal association). When the deal is Closed Won and an Implementation deal is created, we would like that assoication to be copied over to the new deal. How would I best accomplish this?

Hollyce
Colaborador | Partner nivel Diamond

@MaggieB I've noticed a slight bug. I've been using the "Create associations" action in a workflow that is supposed to associate the enrolled contact to a company based on a matching field. There have been some successful associations (yay!), but the workflow "Action Logs" screen also shows "Action succeeded" even when the association was not completed. Any way this can change to show NOT successful if an association was not completed?

Example: the field I'm matching on should contain a number. This contact entered text, but the action log still showed the association as successful even though the fields do not match. 

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LiveOcean
Participante

Hi @MaggieB

Thanks for working on this functionality. 
As a non-profit we use 'Deals' for our donations (incomings) and 'Tickets' to manage our Project Partnerships.
To track how many donations we have supporting each project, we associate a large number of deals to a small number of tickets. To be able to automate these associations and labels through workflows is going to be a real game changer for us 🙂 

In the workflow is it possible to specify which ticket you want it to associate with rather than 'matching property values'?
E.g. If {custom field = X } associate it with the 'Whale Project' Ticket. If {custom field = Y } associate it with the 'Kelp Restoration Project' Ticket.

 

Thanks,
Elaine

Dinesh_Puvvada
Miembro

Automating the process of updating or removal of the Primary association label through workflows is not possible. 

 

Example: The contact is associated with 'Microsoft Bing' with a Primary Label. And, if we want to associate all Microsoft.com contacts to 'Microsoft' company using workflows it's not possible. 

 

My goal is to associate the Microsoft.com contacts with the Microsoft account and not with any other child accounts.

CKoons
Miembro

@LukasK @MaggieB

 


It sounds like you want to create a new record, associate it to the enrolled record and then label that new association.



Not sure if this has been addressed yet but I just set this up in our instance using a contact property. Our use case is that a contact will submit a form to nominate their doctor to be added to our network. We have a workflow that creates the doctor as a contact and associates it to the enrolled contact (contact who submitted the form). As part of that doctor contact creation step I set a custom contact property called Contact Association Label Trigger to Provider. Then, I use the new Apply Association Labels step to apply a Provider label to any associated contact that has a Contact Association Label Trigger value of Provider

Create doctor contact and set custom property value
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Apply Provider association label when custom property value matches

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MChvatal1
Miembro

@MaggieB Thank you for the beta test and for adding workflow functionality for association labels! One feature that we are looking for is the ability to copy association labels from one custom object to another when creating a new record. This doesn't appear to be possible in the beta test. We would like the workflow to look at the association + association label on the original enrollment record and copy it over to a new record via the create record function. For some background, we use a custom object to track client projects and a workflow to clone those projects upon renewal. The workflow creates a new record, copies over the fields that stay constant (leaves others blank), and copies over the associations as well. These custom objects are often associated with more than one company because the project scope can include both a parent and annex company (or several companies), but not always. Using a custom object-to-company association label, we can identify which company should be listed as the primary on a project and which should be listed as an annex. Is copying the original association+label to a new record possible via the beta test? If not, is it something you can consider for future roll-outs? Thanks!

GHogan
Miembro

@MaggieB So excited this is in Beta!! Been waiting for this to simplify a lot of data management we have. One feedback item i would like to provide is being able to match on more than one field matching pair.

 

Use Case - I want to match open assignments to possible contacts based on 2 different fields that exist on both Deals and Contacts, Area of Work + State.

 

In the future it would also be nice to add even more fields to match because we have properties like skills and hours and pay range that would be nice to use as matching criteria. Would also be nice to be able to set the matching criteria similar to List Filters where you could have groups of criteria like Area of Work + State + Hours OR Area of Work + State + Pay Range.

Estado actualizado a: Idea Submitted
JessieS
Moderador de HubSpot

@MaggieB and @zeke Would a good solution for use cases where they want to create a deal record from a contact-based workflow and apply an association label be to make sure a certain property is updated to something unique when the deal record is created, add a delay, and then add the Beta option to Create or Apply Association label? 

An option in the Create record action to select the association label would be ideal, but while it's under review, would that be the best alternative solution? I have a customer wanting that very feature who called into support! Was so happy to share this with him.

Otherwise, I noticed a third party workflow option 0CodeTools for HubSpot, but that's built by a third party app provider so I can't speak to the full functionality and hope our own Beta features will suffice moving forward! https://help.resonatehq.com/change-association-label-hubspot-workflow-action


Thank you 🙂 

ADerbyshire
Participante

Hi @MaggieB, would it be possible to join this beta? I've got a workflow creating an associated deal, and it would be amazing to add an association label to that newly created deal.

 

 

DFuller
Miembro

@ADerbyshire Apparently they have closed the beta for now, even as a paying customer with all Enterprise hubs I was given this response from support when I asked to be added.

 

"I was able to hear back from the more urgent request that you had for the workflow actions beta - the team has alerted me that at this time, we're pausing beta access while we focus on making improvements to ensure our systems scale effectively. We will resume adding customers within the next few weeks. Since you have requested the beta access through your product updates tool, you will be on the list when they start to open this process again."

ADerbyshire
Participante

That's a shame, I've been following this thread for a while now, I just didn't jump in the beta when they announced it. 

sarahdecarlo
Participante

@MaggieB I'm excited about the open beta right now & appreciate all the work your team is putting into this!

 

I have a roadmap question for this functionality - are you all planning to allow workflow enrollment based on association labels, in addition to workflow actions to add/remove/update them? I have several use cases where I could greatly benefit from setting up a "from scratch" workflow with filter-based enrollment, where I target contacts (or companies, deals, or tickets) that have certain association labels applied. 

 

If not planned, is this something that you would consider? Or do you have suggested workarounds? I would even be open to creating active lists based on association labels (to use for workflow enrollment), but that doesn't seem to be a filter option for lists either.

 

Thanks!

LBouchet1
Colaborador

Hi sarahdecarlo,

 

If you make a list with association labels as a filter then you can use the list as the trigger.

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MaggieB
Equipo de producto de HubSpot

Hi Everyone,

 

I want to provide an update on a few things:

  1. Thank you for all of the feature requests. We're reviewing them and will be determining what we can support later this year. I'm seeing trends in the following requests: triggering workflows based on the application of an association label, applying an association label as part of the create & associate flow and copying associations from one record to another. Please keep the feedback coming-it's helpful for us to ensure we're prioritizing the right thing.
  2. We have currently paused on adding new customers to the beta. There has been a ton of enthusiasm for these features and we're making updates to our systems to ensure that everything will continue to scale as efficiently as possible. We will resume adding additional customers within the next few weeks. No further action needed if you've already submitted a request.

Have a great weekend!

 

-Maggie

 

 

MRenders
Participante | Partner nivel Platinum

@MaggieB , 

 

I've noticed some bugs in the workflow steps to create new associations or to create/update/delete association labels. 

The use case: We organize events and customers can bring event guests, when they bring a guest we also ask their email to send them the information of the event as well. In a workflow we either create a new contact or associate an existing contact. Creating the new contact is no probem, associating an existing contact based on a property (email in our case) gives a lot of mistakes

  • The matching propery values seems to be case sensitive, it does not match when one email has a capital letter somewhere, en the matching email does not. 

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  • Like mentioned a couple of comments before; even though the associated was failed to be made, the workflow still says "Action succeeded".
    If it fails it gives me this message in the details:

    {"outputFields":{"hs_execution_state":"SUCCESS","message":"No associated object was found"}}
    But the really weird thing is that even if the action succeeds, it usually gives me the message above as "action succeeded" but before that message the workflow first says "This action was initiated". 
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Could your team please have a look at the messages of succeeded and failed, ... Because it makes it really difficult to see where things go wrong and to built in safety systems in a workflow.

Thank you! Maarten

nilsness
Miembro

When can we expect this update to be released?

DiogoMC
Participante | Partner nivel Diamond

Will the workflow allow same object association when creating a record. Example: a Ticket based workflow creates a new ticket that is associated with the ticket that was enrolled. I can only see the option of associating to other objects (not same object association)