Enable A/B testing in workflow/automated emails

katharine

I was disappointed to see that I can't do an A/B test in an automated email:

https://knowledge.hubspot.com/articles/kcs_article/email/how-to-create-an-a-b-test-email

 

Marketo (a HubSpot competitor) allows this functionality.

Can you add this to the product sometime?

It's particularly helpful with a Welcome email sequence which is key to on-boarding new customers.

HubSpot updates
Jan 15, 2021

Hey folks!

 

The ability to A/B test to automated emails is now in public beta. This enables you to try new tactics and optimize your email sending. To A/B test an email, open the email editor and click "run a test" in the top left. 

Status updated to: In Beta
Jan 13, 2021

Hi Everyone,

 

Thank you for your pateince here. I am ecstatic to be updating this post to "In Beta" today. We rolled this feature out to a list of Beta users from this morning. If you want to be added to it please reach out to support and they can request it through the proper channels. 

We know this has been a very popular request and the team have been working so hard to deliver this as fast as possible. We hope to be rolling it out to a wider audience in coming weeks.

Best,

 

Shane

Status updated to: Being Reviewed
Dec 2, 2020

Status updated to: Idea Submitted
Nov 23, 2020

Hi All! Again thank you for your patience on this feature. Again we are almost there with some final checks and tests. We hope to have this released to Beta next week. I will update this post when it is live. Please do reach out to your CSM if you want to be part of the Beta - By this I mean send an email to support and they can add you to the Beta list.

 

We are really excited to get this out after months of hard work by the team here.

 

Thank you!


Best,

 

Shane Janssens

Nov 13, 2020

Hi All, 

I just wanted to update the recent questions @petersherlock93 , @jmcguire20 , @stuartborders , @JPD123 

 

We are in final testing here. expecting to release to beta group in late Nov. If you want to get siogned up for Beta please reach out to your CSM and they can add you to list.

 

I commented with updates but they seem to be lost in thread. Sorry about confusion.

 

Best,

 

Shane

Sep 30, 2020

Hi all,

 

Quick update here. Again thank you for your patience and feedback here. We are currently moving to testing this feature. It will take a bit of time as it is a big change on the email infastructure. I will update here as soon as it is in Beta. I wont give an exact timing as it depends on what we find in testing. Anyone who has signed up will be in the first release group, if you have not asked support for this please reach out and they can add you to the beta list.

 

Thank you, it is very close now.

 

Best,

 

Shane

 

Status updated to: Being Reviewed
Sep 9, 2020

Hi Everyone,

 

Thank you so much for all your interest and comments in this forum. I am the Product Manager on Marketing Email and I wanted to jump in here as I have been closest to this project for past few months. We are so close, we had hit a couple of small bumps that set us back with the complexity of this build. We are in the final stretch and we are talking about delivering this in September. We have had 2 teams involved in building this and we are so excited to release the Beta as soon as we can. I will update this post as soon as it is ready for beta.

Thank you for your patience and continued interest in this project.

 

Best,

 

Shane

Jul 24, 2020

Hi folks - Jumping in here again from the HubSpot Product team. I want to apologize for how long this has taken. This work is in progress and is a high priority for the team. Unfortunately, we have hit a number of snags during the development of this, which is slowing down the release. Hopefully in another month or so we should have clarity on timing. I'll post here as soon as we have more details to share. In the meantime please feel free to keep commenting, and upvoting the post.

Apr 20, 2020

@btuttle279 Absolutely - just sent over a message. We can jump on a call and walk through what this will all look like! 

Apr 20, 2020

Hi folks - Just posting a quick update on this thread. We are still focused on this project. Waiting on a couple of the backend changes to wrap up before we move into a Beta. Unfortunately, the work took a bit longer than originally anticipated. We are targeting getting the feature into a Beta this quarter (hopefully sometime in late May/ early June). As we roll out the Beta I will announce that in this forum, and post a form for you all to fill out to join. So hang tight for that!


We are very excited to get this one rolled out to you all and to start collecting feedback on it.

Feb 26, 2020

Hi Folks - 

As @Shay mentioned I will be taking over this thread. I wanted to post an update and ask a couple of questions to the group here. Here is the basic functionality we will be supporting in the Beta:

  • A simple 50-50 split between 2 variants 
  • Ability to start and end tests on the same automated email (without cloning and republishing). 
  • Ability to see a history of the tests run on that automated email. 
  • Manually choosing a winner based on open/ click data. 

When digging into this project we realized that AB testing for Automated emails differs from regular 1-off batch emails. The main difference is that Automated emails have the potential to last forever. Thus we needed to support the ability to start and end multiple tests on an Automated email. Tracking those changes and tests over time. Here are some questions I had for the group:

 

Q1: How do you all keep track of the different experiments and tests you have run today with Batch Email? Or with other tools (website pages, CTAs, etc.)?  

Q2: Are their other metrics that are important to picking a winning variant other than Open & Click information? What are they and how do you solve for that today?

Q3: What are the other important pieces of functionality that are missing from above? And which are the most important to you? (ex/ configurable percentages, multivariant, calculations to pick a winner, ability to have HS pick a winner, etc.) 

 

We are getting very close to having a Beta. Once we have it I will post a form in this thread in order for you all to join. We will then be quickly iterating and adding more advanced functionality.  

 

Feb 14, 2020

Hi all! Two quick updates for you on this:

 

Number 1: Progress is going well, we have our new A/B framework in good shape and at the moment we're focusing on the new in-app features needed to begin/end and analyse this new type of A/B test for workflow emails. This is a big update on what is currently available for batch emails, and will give you the ability to end an A/B test and start a new one on the same email without needing to rebuild the email over and over again. Getting very close now! 

 

Number 2: Moving forward this feature, the updates on it's release and all feedback will be handled by my colleague @jaleonard19. Jake is also a PM here working on our marketing email tools and has actually been the one spearheadding this feature for some time now so you'll be in great hands. 

 

Jake is currently working on our release plans and will be sharing a public beta signup form with you all as soon as it's ready. Thank you all again for your feedback and suggestions. Looking forward to seeing the impact this will have for you all.

Dec 19, 2019

Will do @petersherlock93

Dec 11, 2019

Will do @EJVFernyhough ! We'll be sharing a beta sign up form with everyone on this post when it's available so everyone will have the opportunity to sign up once it's open.

Dec 11, 2019

@AJernigan can do Smiley Happy

Nov 18, 2019

Hi @ridingforlife I can definitely share more. At the moment we're making good progress but factoring in the upcoming US and EU holiday season it's unlikely that we'll be hitting beta-ready in Q4 but safe to say that we'll have a beta in Q1 2020. As soon as we have an open beta we'll offer it up to everyone in this thread to give it a try. 

Nov 4, 2019

Hi all, just to keep everyone updated on our progress here, we've been making decent headway with the infrastructure planning and development roadmap for this feature and are making meaningful progress towards a beta.

 

There's still a lot of moving pieces here so we don't have a concrete date on when we'll be opening up a beta but I wanted to keep you all in the loop and confirm that we're definitely focused on this and are actively working on it.

Aug 14, 2019

Thanks @petersherlock93! Just a case of good ol' miscommunication 🙂  The "on pause" here just means that we were still deep into the infrastructure and reliability work needed for this (and other) functionality. It was by no means deprioritised or taken off the roadmap, just needed to get the ordering right on the priorities to make sure we didn't put the cart in front of the horse, so to speak.

Aug 13, 2019

Hi @petersherlock93  (and all following along). I can confirm that this isn't the case, A/B testing of automated emails is still very much a priority for us.

 

For the past few months we have been focused primarily on work on the underlying infrastructure of email, to ensure speed, stability and reliability of the overall platform and user experience. We're nearing the end of this work right now which enables us to continue to build on top of the email tool and makes it possible for us to build more net-new functionality in a stable and scalable way, A/B testing of automated emails being a great example of that. 

 

While there hasn't been much news on this specific feature lately, it's something that is very high on our roadmap and now that we're seeing results from our infrastructure and performance work we're able to refocus our efforts on bringing these new features to the product. Rest assured that it's still something we're focused on. 

 

While we aren't yet at the stage of a beta for this feature, I'd recommend checking out these resources (one and two) from the HubSpot blog that provide interim solutions and as soon as we have a beta that's available for everyone I'll share a signup form for everyone here to try out. Thanks again for your feedback and for keeping the momentum going here. 

Status updated to: In Planning
Jan 29, 2019

Hi all, I wanted to share a quick status update with you on this. We've spent some time researching options for this feature and are making good progress. We'll soon be heading into a dedicated research phase and as we get close to a beta of this we'll open it up to everyone on this post to get early access. Please do keep your feedbac/upvotes coming, we really appreciate it.

Nov 16, 2018

Thank you all for sharing your feedback and use cases on this. The product team is currently thinking about how to solve this, and will post updates here. 

Apr 6, 2017

A/B testing an entire workflow to see what places could be improved to improve conversion rates.

278 Replies
mecalagill
Contributor

Great idea though for now! I might try that and see how it goes. 

tvassalotti
Participant

Can't wait to test out the feature when the beta opens

AirGMS
Member

Hello!

Hubspot representatives, please advise on when A/B testing in automation will be implemented. This is a must-have feature for creating working email automations. 

jlegate
Member

Mad that this is not possible? 

 

Not just the testing of one email vs another, but what about a completely different workflow entirely? Loads of competitors have this and it is a real hindrance to businesses that want to continue to test and learn. 

GLC
Contributor

I also cannot believe Hubspot do not support this functionality for automated emails or transactional emails. Really need to prioritise this!

revilo
Member

Need this one!

GLC
Contributor

This is so important. Still can't believe HubSpot do not support this functionality. 

bcg
Participant

It looks like this has been in the 'planning' stage for a couple of months now... Any update or ETA for us?

cec
Participant

If smart content analytics worked, (which they don't) that would help

Gbenoit
Member

A must have. We need it.

Thxs

Brenda
Participant

As others have said, absolutely critical to be able to test in workflows. It's so limiting to not be able to do this.

GLC
Contributor

As this is in planning, it would be great to get a timescale on it!

MikeJones
Member

I could be late with this but I think this works:

 

https://knowledge.hubspot.com/articles/kcs_article/email/run-an-a/b-test-on-your-marketing-email?KBO...

 

I was able to create an A/B test with 2 different templates and copy. I am yet to test it but so far it looks good.

 

UPDATE: This doesn't solve it, unfortunately 😞

 

EmilJepsen
Member

This is really surprising to me. It's really a basic and crucial feature in an automated workflow, I would have expected it to be a part of HubSpot, with the price tag that it comes with.

 

Are there any plans on implementing this?

MikeJones
Member

Yes, it's quite shocking considering we just invested in Hubspot Marketing and I used to use Outreach for Outbound emails.

 

I thought I posted was the solution but it turns out I was wrong as this can only be used with an email list and there is still no way to A/B test in the automated workflow.

 

I will need to figure out how to use Zapier and make a workaround. Insane! 

 

JDobbin
Contributor | Partner

+1 here. Other tools have this feature so it makes no sense to not have it on HubSpot. It should be a native function not a zapier/workaround function.

MikeJones
Member

Agreed.

 

They made me some videos on how the workaround works and it involves using two separate workflows rather than just two emails equally tested in one workflow - quite shocking.

 

No timeline was given either for when the feature will be available...

Leah2
Participant

its absolutely ridiculous. this has been an issue for over 2 years and the amount of energy that has to be put in to create the a/b test is assinine. our workflows have as many as 5 emails in them... that would require like 40 if/then/rotators. 

ridingforlife
Top Contributor

+1, agreed with everyone else on this.

ridingforlife
Top Contributor

+1, this functionality is so important for testing the performance of workflows.