# Segments: Allow filtering for "not associated to object"

**URL:** <https://community.hubspot.com/t/segments-allow-filtering-for-not-associated-to-object/143983>\
**Category:** HubSpot Ideas\
**Tags:** segments\
**Created:** [December 12, 2025, 9:27am UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/segments-allow-filtering-for-not-associated-to-object/143983 "2025-12-12T09:27:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![buerobert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e5b9ba/32.png) [@buerobert](https://community.hubspot.com/u/buerobert)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 9:27am UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/segments-allow-filtering-for-not-associated-to-object/143983/1 "2025-12-12T09:27:04Z")

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Filtering a segment for records which are _not_ associated to another object (with further criteria on the associated object) requires a workaround of first building another segment, which then can be used to filter “is not member of segment”.

It would be great if “not associated to” segment filter logic could be applied without layering segments.