# Performance Max or PMax - Google Ads **URL:** \ **Category:** Ads\ **Tags:** ads\ **Created:** [February 23, 2023, 2:17pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848 "2023-02-23T14:17:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PViaene](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/pviaene/32/3805_2.png) [@PViaene](https://community.hubspot.com/u/PViaene)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 2:17pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/1 "2023-02-23T14:17:32Z")
Google Ads rolled out Performance Max or PMax campaigns for short. Currently, Hubspot does not yet pull these in via Marketing \> Ads. It is not clear to me whether Hubspot needs to do a development or Google Ads is not releasing this via API? In any case, through that campaign Lead Submits happened in Google Ads. So under Marketing, I can’t find these. Two questions: 1. What is a good workaround to get those leads in Hubspot anyway? 2. What if I add those leads manually in Hubspot, how do I get them under the right source so that my cost per contact and others remain correct? ---
**Author:** ![hakancanada](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/hakancanada/32/62922_2.png) [@hakancanada](https://community.hubspot.com/u/hakancanada)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 8:07am UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/2 "2023-02-24T08:07:30Z")
Following ---
**Author:** ![JoshBarber](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/joshbarber/32/24111_2.png) [@JoshBarber](https://community.hubspot.com/u/JoshBarber)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 1:16am UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/3 "2023-04-02T01:16:01Z")
I’d also love an answer to this. It would be good to at least update the documentation to let us know if this is supported or not. Edit (13.11.23): This was added to the documentation awhile ago here: [Ad tracking in HubSpot](https://knowledge.hubspot.com/ads/ad-tracking-in-hubspot#:~:text=YouTube%20ads%20and%20Performance%20Max%20campaigns%20cannot%20be%20tracked) ---
**Author:** ![MiaSrebrnjak](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/miasrebrnjak/32/10_2.png) [@MiaSrebrnjak](https://community.hubspot.com/u/MiaSrebrnjak)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/4 "2023-04-07T18:40:54Z")
Hi everyone, thank you for contributing to this thread. I wanted to tag a couple of subject matter experts to see if they could share their insights: Hi @jolle, @Bryantworks, [@Alex\_Elborn](https://community.hubspot.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/73663), do you have any input on this matter? Thank you! Cheers Mia, Community Team ---
**Author:** ![PViaene](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/pviaene/32/3805_2.png) [@PViaene](https://community.hubspot.com/u/PViaene)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 8:00am UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/5 "2023-05-25T08:00:23Z")
The importance of PMax is starting to quietly increase. Yet I don’t see any movement at Hubspot. ---
**Author:** ![NathanCorliss](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/nathancorliss/32/33766_2.png) [@NathanCorliss](https://community.hubspot.com/u/NathanCorliss)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/6 "2023-06-02T19:53:48Z")
Just got a $10k opp from Performance Max, however, it isn’t tracked in the HubSpot ads manager -- let’s get it fixed, @MiaSrebrnjak . 📿 ---
**Author:** ![NathanCorliss](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/nathancorliss/32/33766_2.png) [@NathanCorliss](https://community.hubspot.com/u/NathanCorliss)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/7 "2023-07-18T17:49:19Z")
My Google Performance Max opp, became a customer! Yay! (Sadly, there’s no attribution in the HubSpot ads manager) ---
**Author:** ![DanThomas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9dc877/32.png) [@DanThomas](https://community.hubspot.com/u/DanThomas)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 12:57pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/8 "2023-06-26T12:57:00Z")
This is gaining more traction with our clients. I would be very keen to understand if/when PMAX ads will be tracked. ---
**Author:** ![gastromaniac](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/gastromaniac/32/79644_2.png) [@gastromaniac](https://community.hubspot.com/u/gastromaniac)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 12:41pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/9 "2023-07-17T12:41:50Z")
Is there still no update from Hubspot? This is no small issue. ---
**Author:** ![hakancanada](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/hakancanada/32/62922_2.png) [@hakancanada](https://community.hubspot.com/u/hakancanada)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/10 "2023-07-18T17:00:30Z")
Hubspot is really slow on catching the what’s hyping. I’m not surprised there is nothing on hubspot end. I’m still manually getting the leads instead of using zapier. ---
**Author:** ![DLogtenberg](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/dlogtenberg/32/186567_2.png) [@DLogtenberg](https://community.hubspot.com/u/DLogtenberg)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 1:40pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/11 "2023-08-05T13:40:59Z")
I spent too long trying to work out a solution with the support team only to find out that it was not supported in any meaningful way and there is no timeline for when that will occur. They are not aware of the importance of performance max campaigns. We canʻt properly track, build and report from our data so we can utilize the services Google is pushing on all of us. We need to get a ton of upvotes and bring Pmax needs to their attention. I donʻt think they are aware of how many others are impacted. I was told to make a post and get some upvotes because they could not refer any helpful info to me for work arounds. ---
**Author:** ![Christo\_1](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/christo_1/32/84335_2.png) [@Christo\_1](https://community.hubspot.com/u/Christo_1)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 6:03am UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/12 "2023-08-15T06:03:09Z")
I wonder how many years this request will go unanswered. I want PMax tracking as well. Lets see if you can do better than the 3 years without action despite several upvotes of some of the other requests I have participated in. I suspect Hubspot is tone deaf if there is no immediate way it increases their revenue. ---
**Author:** ![TE28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TE28](https://community.hubspot.com/u/TE28)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/13 "2023-08-29T18:04:50Z")
Any update on this guys? ---
**Author:** ![mrktingsaas0120](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/mrktingsaas0120/32/104913_2.png) [@mrktingsaas0120](https://community.hubspot.com/u/mrktingsaas0120)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/14 "2023-09-14T22:15:37Z")
After talking to everyone I know at Hubspot, Google, digital ad agencies, etc, I got nowhere other than “yes we know this is a problem.” Independently, I realized that **you can add UTM codes to my performance max campaigns**. This is working? I can now track new contacts and revenue by UTM campaign and see attribution in HubSpot. It seems a little too good to be true, and I’m wondering what I’m missing. Has anyone else tried this? ![Screen Shot 2023-09-12 at 2.52.51 PM.png](https://d2qpr2jzcazej7.cloudfront.net/original/2X/d/ddeb3368887ec2c1e5aa856a498e3a0c8edb6aaf.png) ![Screen Shot 2023-09-14 at 3.13.53 PM.png](https://d2qpr2jzcazej7.cloudfront.net/original/3X/8/f/8f1de22e841dc358f994497c135a9fd8d7ce75bb.png) ---
**Author:** ![BatVal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d07c76/32.png) [@BatVal](https://community.hubspot.com/u/BatVal)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2023, 12:35pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/15 "2023-09-15T12:35:51Z")
We tried this solution, but the number of conversions in HubSpot is different from the one you find in G Ads. We are going to implement a new campaign with the same solution to check if we made any error in the first one. ---
**Author:** ![hakancanada](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/hakancanada/32/62922_2.png) [@hakancanada](https://community.hubspot.com/u/hakancanada)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 9:28pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/16 "2023-11-14T21:28:49Z")
Is it working? ---
**Author:** ![mrktingsaas0120](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/mrktingsaas0120/32/104913_2.png) [@mrktingsaas0120](https://community.hubspot.com/u/mrktingsaas0120)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/17 "2023-12-13T16:41:32Z")
update it is working. i am also able to pull lists based on the UTM code tracking to the Google ad campaign ID. Here is how they were built: ![Screen Shot 2023-12-13 at 8.39.14 AM.png](https://d2qpr2jzcazej7.cloudfront.net/original/3X/8/7/87f4f4f9d2fed10f30d8150f7b53c5bfdc6e9b3d.png) ![Screen Shot 2023-12-13 at 8.39.58 AM.png](https://d2qpr2jzcazej7.cloudfront.net/original/3X/3/6/36b23ed1b25394d3eb8dd18f6ffcf1a40b0806e4.png) ![Screen Shot 2023-12-13 at 8.40.29 AM.png](https://d2qpr2jzcazej7.cloudfront.net/original/3X/6/5/65d2a2380019ed210e971a6ea414814fa9ac59b5.png) ---
**Author:** ![PViaene](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/pviaene/32/3805_2.png) [@PViaene](https://community.hubspot.com/u/PViaene)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 7:17am UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/18 "2023-12-14T07:17:19Z")
This is only a small answer to the question. Because the leads are not coming under Ads and the right channels, campaigns or ad groups. So the attribution is completely wrong. There is also no ROI calculation this way. ---
**Author:** ![trevordjones](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/trevordjones/32/35637_2.png) [@trevordjones](https://community.hubspot.com/u/trevordjones)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/19 "2023-12-14T14:33:06Z")
@PViaene The issue is that Google has not issued an API for the PMax ad type at this time. There is nothing that HubSpot can do in the way of development for its ads tool untill Google releases an API. So, we should all reach out to them and ask for an API. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![PViaene](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/pviaene/32/3805_2.png) [@PViaene](https://community.hubspot.com/u/PViaene)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848/20 "2023-12-14T14:44:05Z")
The only one at Google I get stuck with is a trained rep who can mean little or nothing. I am trying all means 🙂 My hope is that Hubspot can put more pressure on. They will surely have better contacts than a robotic rep. [Next page](https://community.hubspot.com/t/performance-max-or-pmax-google-ads/75848.md?page=2)