# Owner and User

**URL:** <https://community.hubspot.com/t/owner-and-user/18212>\
**Category:** APIs & Integrations\
**Tags:** developer-tools, webhooks\
**Created:** [January 20, 2020, 11:38am UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/owner-and-user/18212 "2020-01-20T11:38:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![deepanker](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/deepanker/32/68963_2.png) [@deepanker](https://community.hubspot.com/u/deepanker)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 11:38am UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/owner-and-user/18212/1 "2020-01-20T11:38:50Z")

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Note on Owners API Overview page ([https://developers.hubspot.com/docs/methods/owners/owners\_overview](https://developers.hubspot.com/docs/methods/owners/owners_overview)) suggests that HubSpot users and owners may be different because the users can be imported from Salesforce. While the Get owners API page ([https://developers.hubspot.com/docs/methods/owners/get\_owners](https://developers.hubspot.com/docs/methods/owners/get_owners)) says - “Owners are automatically created and updated in HubSpot when new users are added or existing owners are synced from Salesforce.” Which one should I trust? Is it safe to assume that the list of owners will include the list of users? What is the best way to get all HubSpot users through API/Webhooks?

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**Author:** ![Willson](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/willson/32/84663_2.png) [@Willson](https://community.hubspot.com/u/Willson)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 12:00pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/owner-and-user/18212/2 "2020-01-20T12:00:20Z")

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Hi @deepanker

These are both valid statements but are slightly misleading in their appearance (I’ll make a note of this feedback with our Team internally!)

To provide clarification, when a `User` is created in HubSpot, this becomes a valid option as a `Contact Owner`.

At the same time, if you have a Salesforce Integration that syncs across `Contacts` that have a `Contact Owner` whom is not a User in your Portal, this value will exist as a `Contact Owner` only.

Therefore, when using this endpoint, you can receive an `Owner ID` that is not specific to a User as it relates to the Owner that has synced from Salesforce.

I hope this helps!

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**Author:** ![deepanker](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/deepanker/32/68963_2.png) [@deepanker](https://community.hubspot.com/u/deepanker)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/owner-and-user/18212/3 "2020-01-20T19:17:03Z")

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Thanks, Matthew.