# Internal Values Formatting

**URL:** <https://community.hubspot.com/t/internal-values-formatting/85329>\
**Category:** Tips, Tricks & Best Practices\
**Tags:** professional\
**Created:** [July 14, 2023, 1:16am UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/internal-values-formatting/85329 "2023-07-14T01:16:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![SWandell7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@SWandell7](https://community.hubspot.com/u/SWandell7)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 1:16am UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/internal-values-formatting/85329/1 "2023-07-14T01:16:19Z")

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I’m looking for guidance on the formatting of internal values for properties. I have a mix of all of the formatting on my properties. I do remember reading that internal values need to look like this, INTERNAL\_VALUE but I can’t find what I read on that and I wanted to know if anyone knows the reason for the all caps and no spaces.  
Can internal values look like this:  
internal\_value

internal value

Internal Value

Or are internal values supposed took like this:  
INTERNAL\_VALUE

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Eastwood](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/mike_eastwood/32/70075_2.png) [@Mike\_Eastwood](https://community.hubspot.com/u/Mike_Eastwood)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 1:54am UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/internal-values-formatting/85329/2 "2023-07-14T01:54:16Z")

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Hi @SWandell7

HubSpot will automatically format a Property Label (e.g. _Temporary Order ID_) to a Property Name, or Internal Name (e.g. _temporary\_order\_id_) by making everything lower case and swapping spaces, or punctuation with an underscore “\_”.

So, using your example, that would be “internal\_name”.

 ![Screen Shot 2023-07-06 at 10.39.13 AM.png](https://d2qpr2jzcazej7.cloudfront.net/original/2X/0/0d303fb87dbbf4e7a9716a5c1eca4aed42a65368.png)

Once the Internal Name is set it cannot be changed. But, you can change the Label.

So when I have a long property name I will use a short label to create the Internal name, then edit the Label to make it more self explanatory. For example in our CRM we have a Propety “Is a HubSpot Partner Agency” so I created a property “Is Partner” which created the Internal name “is\_partner” then I edited the Label to “Is a HubSpot Partner Agency”.

Have fun

Mike

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**Author:** ![SWandell7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@SWandell7](https://community.hubspot.com/u/SWandell7)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 2:48pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/internal-values-formatting/85329/3 "2023-07-14T14:48:42Z")

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Thanks, Mike - would you suggest that I re-create properties that are not currently set up with the internal value as ‘internal\_value’?

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Eastwood](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/mike_eastwood/32/70075_2.png) [@Mike\_Eastwood](https://community.hubspot.com/u/Mike_Eastwood)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 1:32am UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/internal-values-formatting/85329/4 "2023-07-16T01:32:19Z")

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Hi @SWandell7

It’s a significant amount of work to rename the properties, especially if your properties have values.

If you have a new, clean portal then maybe it’s worth the effort.

Only developers will see the Propety Names, most Users will see the Property Labels which are easy to edit.

Mike