@Ntbrown: Here we go again.
Interpersonal relations are not one of your strengths, right? If a user has made his coice to switch from software a to b - why do make him insecure with such a unqualified and false statement like “…poor coice…” or “You should also take any advice on this forum with a large grain of salt”.
Really man, get your facts right and think about “non-developers” who most likely don’t even know how to optimize a page.
Also: If you haven’t noticed: This is a HubSpot specific Board. Of course everybody will say “HubSpot is better”. Just as it would be in a WordPress/Joomla/Drupal/Typo3… Community/Board. Everybody says that the software which the Community/Board belongs to is better than the other(s).
An old and bloated WordPress install is most likely the reason why a WP page is slow - sure - but don’t tell the user to “clean it up” if he already made his decision to leave his WordPress behind.
Speedwise HubSpot is by default better optimized than WordPress and can be optimized way better without writing tons of lines of code, installing plugins(which will bloat the install again). Just one small example: if you shouldn’t know it - HubSpot got a build-in CDN which (like every CDN) and on CMS enterprise you can even controll a ton of settings without the need of - again - develop alsmost neverending lines of code.
And since it seems that you’re a number-guy:
Here’s a screen of a GTMetrics comparison of a client project I’ve optimized for page-speed
Left and right are two GTMetrics runs of HubSpot - center the original page which is based on Ruby done by the clients developers a while ago.
Furthermore: You say that “There’s a reason the vast majority of “HubSpot” agencies have WordPress websites.”. Maybe that’s the case sure. Have you ever thought about that there are a lot of HubSpot partners out there who most likely don’t have own HubSpot developers and don’t offer development jobs. That’s why they’re sticking to WordPress because “Everybody can build and maintain a WordPress site”. There is no need for highly skilled developers or something like that.They’re aiming for the best possible marketing/sales/service consulting solution and don’t want to automate/personalize everything. You buy a theme, you install it, you build your page. Done. And if you need a specific function there is a plugin. Wow! Such development! Much great! Wow!
That’s most likely the case why most pages are based on WordPress. Not because of great performance or ease of optimization.
HubSpot was (and most likely will be) always “marketers first”. They’ve done an awesome job with developing a piece of software which makes everybodys lifes easier. The marketer can’t “destroy” the page and can build quite fast new pages and the developer can easily create new functions.
You should try to think as somebody who doesn’t even know how to paste the text from google docs/word directly into a rich-text module correctly and don’t understand why the formatting is broken. (I’m facing such client questions at least once a week).
@dennisedson have you grabbed some popcorn yet?
