# Firstname, inbetweenname, lastname

**URL:** <https://community.hubspot.com/t/firstname-inbetweenname-lastname/31339>\
**Category:** CRM\
**Tags:** crm, contacts\
**Created:** [February 5, 2021, 1:43pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/firstname-inbetweenname-lastname/31339 "2021-02-05T13:43:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![TDijkstra](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/tdijkstra/32/21752_2.png) [@TDijkstra](https://community.hubspot.com/u/TDijkstra)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 1:43pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/firstname-inbetweenname-lastname/31339/1 "2021-02-05T13:43:59Z")

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Goodafternoon everyone,

I am Dutch and in Holland we often use an inbetwwen name, it’s called “tussenvoegsel”. In the CRM Hub i have created that field and the data from the importfile is present after the import is finished. In the record it is oke but the header of the contact is not changed.

Contacts full name is Michiel **de** Ruyter but it is displayed as Michiel Ruyter.

Has anyone has a solution for this problem??

Like to hear from You!!

Theo Dijkstra, Holland.

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**Author:** ![Josh](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/josh/32/17115_2.png) [@Josh](https://community.hubspot.com/u/Josh)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/firstname-inbetweenname-lastname/31339/2 "2021-02-05T14:46:28Z")

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Hi @TDijkstra,

The most common thing that I see is to include within the Last Name property. So in the example:

- First Name: Michiel
- Last Name: de Ruyter

If you want to take this approach, you can download your data and in excel, concatenate the two properties with a space in between the two columns, and then re-upload.

Would there be any negative consequences of incorporating this into the last name field?

@karstenkoehler - anything to add here?

Josh

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**Author:** ![karstenkoehler](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/karstenkoehler/32/68554_2.png) [@karstenkoehler](https://community.hubspot.com/u/karstenkoehler)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/firstname-inbetweenname-lastname/31339/3 "2021-02-05T15:37:00Z")

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Thanks for tagging, @Josh! I would’ve suggested the same.

@TDijkstra, is the tussenvoegsel usually captured in the first or last name field or is it a separate form field on Dutch pages? And what role does it play in the saluation – Mr de Ruyter or Mr Ruyter?

If you need it as a separate HubSpot field, then it’s probably easiest to just accept that HubSpot has no UI option for this. You would still be able to personalize your emails – it just wouldn’t show up on the contact record.

Best regards!

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**Author:** ![ashorvat](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/ashorvat/32/194687_2.png) [@ashorvat](https://community.hubspot.com/u/ashorvat)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 12:51pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/firstname-inbetweenname-lastname/31339/4 "2022-04-28T12:51:13Z")

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Global applications such as HUBSPOT should be perceived that the whole world is not an American culture and that each country has peculiarities in communication, which is a very sensitive issue.

That’s why you need to improve on things like this and not look at it from the SW’s point of view that it’s just an additional complication with the new field.

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**Author:** ![kvlschaefer](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/kvlschaefer/32/71076_2.png) [@kvlschaefer](https://community.hubspot.com/u/kvlschaefer)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/firstname-inbetweenname-lastname/31339/5 "2022-04-28T17:04:52Z")

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Hi @ashorvat,

Thank you so much for your valuable feedback. We appreciate it.

I would like to suggest that you post this feedback in the [Ideas Forum](https://community.hubspot.com/t5/HubSpot-Ideas/idb-p/HubSpot_Ideas) as it’s monitored by our Product Team. The [Ideas Forum](https://community.hubspot.com/t5/HubSpot-Ideas/idb-p/HubSpot_Ideas) is the best place to communicate with the team.

Best,

Kristen

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**Author:** ![TDijkstra](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/tdijkstra/32/21752_2.png) [@TDijkstra](https://community.hubspot.com/u/TDijkstra)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 7:52am UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/firstname-inbetweenname-lastname/31339/6 "2021-02-08T07:52:36Z")

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Thank you for your reaction.

There is no problem to make the adjustment as mentiond in both your solutions, the only thing i have to aler is the import file and join the data in both the fields before import the file.

Thank you both for your reply.

Kind regards

Theo

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**Author:** ![bhascher](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/bhascher/32/39140_2.png) [@bhascher](https://community.hubspot.com/u/bhascher)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/firstname-inbetweenname-lastname/31339/7 "2022-08-19T14:01:57Z")

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What we do is put the middle name into the Last Name field. Your communication will be correct. The tricky thing here is that you can’t use automatic Workflow formatting or the new Data quality tooling. This because this would capitalize the middle name, which is wrong. So far I’ve found no workaround to fix this automaticly so this means you have to manually correct Last name formatting. The new Data Quality tool helps you indentify any incorrect last names that include a middle name though.

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**Author:** ![kvlschaefer](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/kvlschaefer/32/71076_2.png) [@kvlschaefer](https://community.hubspot.com/u/kvlschaefer)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/firstname-inbetweenname-lastname/31339/8 "2022-08-19T19:02:34Z")

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Thanks for sharing, @bhascher!
