# createdate vs hs\_createdate

**URL:** <https://community.hubspot.com/t/createdate-vs-hs-createdate/28865>\
**Category:** APIs & Integrations\
**Tags:** object\
**Created:** [December 8, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/createdate-vs-hs-createdate/28865 "2020-12-08T02:08:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![olobuilders](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/olobuilders/32/62359_2.png) [@olobuilders](https://community.hubspot.com/u/olobuilders)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/createdate-vs-hs-createdate/28865/1 "2020-12-08T02:08:27Z")

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Question regarding the properties createdate vs hs\_createdate.

I am using this end point to retrieve the all the deals propertiers: crm/v3/properties/deals

It appears there are two properties, _createdate_ and _hs\_createdate_. Does anyone know the difference between these two properties?

The description is the exact same for both: "_The date the deal was created. This property is set automatically by HubSpot."_

However, when I use the serach API and return deals, these two timestamps are different.

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**Author:** ![dennisedson](https://d10pqhm3lwygmk.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/community.hubspot.com/dennisedson/32/28044_2.png) [@dennisedson](https://community.hubspot.com/u/dennisedson)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://community.hubspot.com/t/createdate-vs-hs-createdate/28865/2 "2020-12-10T21:44:09Z")

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Hey @olobuilders

hs\_createdate is viewable in the UI whereas createdate is not. There is a strong possibility that createdate didn’t get fully deprecated and is not receiving updates. I would trust **hs\_createdate.**