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    <title>topic Re: How do I optimize my data structure to integrate with CPQ/Subscription Management tools? in &amp;#128172 RevOps Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for tagging me&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/106905"&gt;@kvlschaefer&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/123593"&gt;@eduardogn13&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;sadly I know too little about either of the two tools not subscription management to give a coherent answer. Having said that, from my time at HubSpot I've seen the following things which made sense:&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;LI&gt;depending on the complexity and variables of your subscription, this should probably be managed outside HubSpot&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Any change = a new deal (upsell pipeline or additional services pipeline) which adds onto the main subscription (which is managed outside HubSpot)&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Renewals are new deals in a new pipeline, which are based off original + all changes, i.e. I start with Marketing Hub Pro, add Sales Hub Pro, then add 5 more seats, my renewal is Marketing Hub Pro, Sales Hub Pro with 10 seats.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Either you write/update key subscription information into a custom object or you pull it into the CRM (a custom card ?) from you subscription tool&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hope that's somewhat useful.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Frank&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2023 20:25:01 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>franksteiner79</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-03-16T20:25:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>How do I optimize my data structure to integrate with CPQ/Subscription Management tools?</title>
      <link>https://community.hubspot.com/t5/128172-RevOps-Discussions/How-do-I-optimize-my-data-structure-to-integrate-with-CPQ/m-p/769219#M1741</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey there! &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Any SaaS business using Hubspot integrated with a CPQ/Subscription Management tool like DealHub or Chargebee?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;If so, how do you keep Hubspot up to date on subscription variations to make it easier for Account Managers?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;We are currently trying to figure out what the best option is. These are some questions that we stumbled upon:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;What happens to a customer who adds 2 new users (or any other unit that makes sense for your business model):&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;- Is the information automatically updated in Hubspot based on the subscription management tool, via the integration?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;- Do you keep the variation information in the original Deal / Company, just changing its fields?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;- Or do you focus the changes on the Line Items associated with them?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;- Maybe you create new deals at each iteration?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;- Do you use any custom object to separate "Subscriptions" from "Deals"?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;- How do you handle renewals? Do you “kill” the original deal and create a new one?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Thanks in advance! &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2023 17:48:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>eduardogn13</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-03-15T17:48:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How do I optimize my data structure to integrate with CPQ/Subscription Management tools?</title>
      <link>https://community.hubspot.com/t5/128172-RevOps-Discussions/How-do-I-optimize-my-data-structure-to-integrate-with-CPQ/m-p/769221#M1742</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/101262"&gt;@MiaSrebrnjak&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/21301"&gt;@sharonlicari&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/106905"&gt;@kvlschaefer&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;any idea of someone that can help my colleague Eduardo in this topic?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2023 17:54:06 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jforte</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-03-15T17:54:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How do I optimize my data structure to integrate with CPQ/Subscription Management tools?</title>
      <link>https://community.hubspot.com/t5/128172-RevOps-Discussions/How-do-I-optimize-my-data-structure-to-integrate-with-CPQ/m-p/769343#M1743</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/53340"&gt;@jforte&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thank you for adding us to the conversation &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I would like to invite our community experts to this conversation to see if they have any insight for your colleague.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/428335"&gt;@jolle&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/439449"&gt;@MariSuper&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/138613"&gt;@MandyDROS&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/73173"&gt;@franksteiner79&lt;/a&gt; - Do you have any tips for&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/123593"&gt;@eduardogn13&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thank you!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Kristen&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2023 21:08:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>kvlschaefer</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-03-15T21:08:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How do I optimize my data structure to integrate with CPQ/Subscription Management tools?</title>
      <link>https://community.hubspot.com/t5/128172-RevOps-Discussions/How-do-I-optimize-my-data-structure-to-integrate-with-CPQ/m-p/769982#M1745</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for tagging me&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/106905"&gt;@kvlschaefer&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/123593"&gt;@eduardogn13&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;sadly I know too little about either of the two tools not subscription management to give a coherent answer. Having said that, from my time at HubSpot I've seen the following things which made sense:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;depending on the complexity and variables of your subscription, this should probably be managed outside HubSpot&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Any change = a new deal (upsell pipeline or additional services pipeline) which adds onto the main subscription (which is managed outside HubSpot)&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Renewals are new deals in a new pipeline, which are based off original + all changes, i.e. I start with Marketing Hub Pro, add Sales Hub Pro, then add 5 more seats, my renewal is Marketing Hub Pro, Sales Hub Pro with 10 seats.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Either you write/update key subscription information into a custom object or you pull it into the CRM (a custom card ?) from you subscription tool&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hope that's somewhat useful.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Frank&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2023 20:25:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hubspot.com/t5/128172-RevOps-Discussions/How-do-I-optimize-my-data-structure-to-integrate-with-CPQ/m-p/769982#M1745</guid>
      <dc:creator>franksteiner79</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-03-16T20:25:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How do I optimize my data structure to integrate with CPQ/Subscription Management tools?</title>
      <link>https://community.hubspot.com/t5/128172-RevOps-Discussions/How-do-I-optimize-my-data-structure-to-integrate-with-CPQ/m-p/777337#M1764</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/138613"&gt;@MandyDROS&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;--- wonder if you might have any thoughts on this. You're pretty advanced when it comes to these scenarios/use cases.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2023 12:39:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hubspot.com/t5/128172-RevOps-Discussions/How-do-I-optimize-my-data-structure-to-integrate-with-CPQ/m-p/777337#M1764</guid>
      <dc:creator>Justin_Graci</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-04-03T12:39:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How do I optimize my data structure to integrate with CPQ/Subscription Management tools?</title>
      <link>https://community.hubspot.com/t5/128172-RevOps-Discussions/How-do-I-optimize-my-data-structure-to-integrate-with-CPQ/m-p/785125#M1794</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/123593"&gt;@eduardogn13&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;great post! I came to community in search of the same answer.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In another CRM in a past life, the CPQ pulled in all the items from a subscription module for each new deal.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;CPQ Tool used Quote, Products, and Line Items objects in the CRM&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;DEAL for New Business (type/pipeline) was used to create the quote&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Closed Won deal (aka signed quote) created Subscription for recurring line items, Inventory for one-time items and ProService hours&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;DEAL for MACD (Moves, Adds, Changes, Deletions) pulled in all subscription and inventory items to the CPQ Quote and changes could be made to the subscription via the quote&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;CPQ tool approval process would be required for negative amounts, downsells, etc.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Closed Won MACD DEALs would modify the subscription&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;ProServices hours inventory and one-time items could be consumed using Tickets&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Every new DEAL pulled in quote and available inventory&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm not sure how to do it in HubSpot, but I really need a solution to manage quotes against a subscription. Any suggestions&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/73173"&gt;@franksteiner79&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2023 21:00:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>CAnderson87</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-04-21T21:00:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How do I optimize my data structure to integrate with CPQ/Subscription Management tools?</title>
      <link>https://community.hubspot.com/t5/128172-RevOps-Discussions/How-do-I-optimize-my-data-structure-to-integrate-with-CPQ/m-p/949732#M2326</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If you haven't already got a solution - look into Subskribe:&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.subskribe.com/" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.subskribe.com/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;We just finished our implementation with them (6 months) and it has solved&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;all&lt;/STRONG&gt; our problems. Hands down the best CPQ on the market.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2024 23:09:12 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>timo1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-03-25T23:09:12Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://community.hubspot.com/t5/128172-RevOps-Discussions/How-do-I-optimize-my-data-structure-to-integrate-with-CPQ/m-p/1045290#M2697</link>
      <description>&lt;P data-unlink="true"&gt;I must be appreciate to you that If anyone have more easily explain related to CPQ management tools&amp;nbsp;. I am using in long time but can't understand properly. Must be tell that how it can help in website development.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2024 13:19:56 GMT</pubDate>
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