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    <title>topic leads from non hubspot forms getting wrong lifecycle stages in APIs &amp; Integrations</title>
    <link>https://community.hubspot.com/t5/APIs-Integrations/leads-from-non-hubspot-forms-getting-wrong-lifecycle-stages/m-p/1165111#M82646</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;i am facing a situation . we do have a non hubspot form which captures lead from login page . but the contacts coming to crm from that form as tagged as customer's customer by default which is wrong , ideally it should be lead. since it is a non hubspot form, i can not having any control over it . need help .attaching the screenshot of such a contact.&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screenshot 2025-06-16 153703.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/148540i0B3726DA7644A1A8/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screenshot 2025-06-16 153703.png" alt="Screenshot 2025-06-16 153703.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2025 10:08:01 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Naveen28</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-06-16T10:08:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>leads from non hubspot forms getting wrong lifecycle stages</title>
      <link>https://community.hubspot.com/t5/APIs-Integrations/leads-from-non-hubspot-forms-getting-wrong-lifecycle-stages/m-p/1165111#M82646</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;i am facing a situation . we do have a non hubspot form which captures lead from login page . but the contacts coming to crm from that form as tagged as customer's customer by default which is wrong , ideally it should be lead. since it is a non hubspot form, i can not having any control over it . need help .attaching the screenshot of such a contact.&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screenshot 2025-06-16 153703.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/148540i0B3726DA7644A1A8/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screenshot 2025-06-16 153703.png" alt="Screenshot 2025-06-16 153703.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2025 10:08:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hubspot.com/t5/APIs-Integrations/leads-from-non-hubspot-forms-getting-wrong-lifecycle-stages/m-p/1165111#M82646</guid>
      <dc:creator>Naveen28</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-16T10:08:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: leads from non hubspot forms getting wrong lifecycle stages</title>
      <link>https://community.hubspot.com/t5/APIs-Integrations/leads-from-non-hubspot-forms-getting-wrong-lifecycle-stages/m-p/1165225#M82653</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello Naveen,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is therre a way you can provide more information on the non hubspot form that is being utilized? Based on the information, here are 3 solutions I can suggest that you try:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;1. Disable HubSpot's automatic lifecycle updates&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;By default, HubSpot may bump a contact's lifecycle stage when any form is submitted. If you want to take control utilizing workflows, I would suggest turning that off.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. Use a simple Workflow to overwrite the stage&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Even if you can’t inject a hidden lifecycle_stage field into your external form, you &lt;EM&gt;can&lt;/EM&gt; retroactively correct it with a workflow:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Trigger&lt;/STRONG&gt;: Contact property &lt;STRONG&gt;“Form submission”&lt;/STRONG&gt; is known and equals your non-HubSpot form.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Condition&lt;/STRONG&gt;: (Optional) Contact’s current &lt;STRONG&gt;Lifecycle stage&lt;/STRONG&gt; is “Customer’s Customer.”&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Action&lt;/STRONG&gt;: &lt;STRONG&gt;Set contact property&lt;/STRONG&gt; → &lt;STRONG&gt;Lifecycle stage&lt;/STRONG&gt; to &lt;STRONG&gt;Lead&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;This way, &lt;STRONG&gt;every time&lt;/STRONG&gt; someone comes in through that form, HubSpot will immediately reclassify them as a Lead. Workflows are the recommended way to keep your lifecycle stages accurate and up to date based on &lt;EM&gt;any&lt;/EM&gt; behavior or data source .&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3. API call at creation&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you manage this form that is outside of HubSpot, you can utilize HubSpot APIs to UPSERT the contact and include the lifecycle_stage that you want to set the contact in.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Let me know if this helps, or if you have any other questions!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="lia-unicode-emoji"&gt;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":heavy_check_mark:"&gt;✔️&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;Was I able to help answer your question? Help the community by&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;marking it as a solution.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE width="100%"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="20.365535248041773%" height="191px"&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="BrandonWoodruff_0-1750079677266.jpeg" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/148565i48297F966324A73F/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="BrandonWoodruff_0-1750079677266.jpeg" alt="BrandonWoodruff_0-1750079677266.jpeg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="79.50391644908615%" height="191px"&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-woody-woodruff/" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow noreferrer"&gt;Brandon Woodruff&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;Senior Software Developer @&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.pearagon.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"&gt;Pearagon&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Still have questions? Reach out at&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;A href="mailto:brandon@pearagon.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow noreferrer"&gt;brandon@pearagon.com&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="BrandonWoodruff_1-1750079677198.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/148564i0D057BD8C39933D7/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="BrandonWoodruff_1-1750079677198.png" alt="BrandonWoodruff_1-1750079677198.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2025 13:15:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hubspot.com/t5/APIs-Integrations/leads-from-non-hubspot-forms-getting-wrong-lifecycle-stages/m-p/1165225#M82653</guid>
      <dc:creator>BrandonWoodruff</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-16T13:15:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: leads from non hubspot forms getting wrong lifecycle stages</title>
      <link>https://community.hubspot.com/t5/APIs-Integrations/leads-from-non-hubspot-forms-getting-wrong-lifecycle-stages/m-p/1190029#M83812</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I can see why that’s frustrating, &lt;a href="https://community.hubspot.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/621354"&gt;@Naveen28&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Non HubSpot form submissions often bypass the guardrails HubSpot applies to its native forms, so lifecycle stages can get mis-assigned.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The quick fix is usually a workflow: trigger on submissions from that specific external form, then reset the lifecycle stage back to “Lead.” This corrects the record as soon as it lands in the CRM.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You can also turn off HubSpot’s automatic lifecycle updates if you’d rather manage all stages through your own rules (see: &lt;A title="customize-lifecycle-stages" href="https://knowledge.hubspot.com/object-settings/create-and-customize-lifecycle-stages" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://knowledge.hubspot.com/object-settings/create-and-customize-lifecycle-stages&lt;/A&gt;).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you’re comfortable with APIs, another option is upserting contacts directly with the correct lifecycle_stage field via HubSpot’s Contacts API (&lt;A title="objects/contacts" href="https://developers.hubspot.com/docs/guides/api/crm/objects/contacts" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://developers.hubspot.com/docs/guides/api/crm/objects/contacts&lt;/A&gt;).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That way the right value is set on creation, and workflows aren’t needed as a patch.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Longer-term, the real challenge is data consistency when leads come in from external sources. If you rely on many forms or apps outside HubSpot, it can be tough to enforce clean mappings.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For what it’s worth, we see teams use Stacksync as a middle layer in cases like this catching data from outside forms, standardizing fields, and making sure lifecycle stages or owners are set correctly before data even lands in HubSpot&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It avoids the brittle fixes and keeps CRM data cleaner.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Does that line up with what you were aiming for?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hope this helps.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2025 17:26:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hubspot.com/t5/APIs-Integrations/leads-from-non-hubspot-forms-getting-wrong-lifecycle-stages/m-p/1190029#M83812</guid>
      <dc:creator>RubenBurdin</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-18T17:26:12Z</dc:date>
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